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Need to get an automatic scoot for commute: Please suggest!
#1
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Hey Guys! I'm gonna be turning 16 this month and hence, will qualify for getting a Learners Licence. Also with no 2 wheeler presently in the garage and unreliability and cost of public transport, it is getting difficult to take a car out for short errands and to the crowded areas of the city hence the thought of an automatic scooter. I will be using it primarily for commuting to school from next year which is 7km from my place so FE is a priority. That said, I'd really like something sporty and feature rich while also being practical and comfortable for my parents to use. I somehow do not like the Activa at all and am reluctant to look at the Honda stable. I haven't taken any TDs yet so comparing just on paper right now. With these in mind, here's my list of preferences-

  1. Comfort- Due to my long commute
  2. Fuel Efficiency- Same reason as above
  3. Sportiness- For myself Big Grin
  4. Features- Would love good features
  5. Reliability- Expected ownership period is atleast 7-8 years so good service support is critical.
So far, have shortlisted these models for now-
  • Aprilia SR125- My go to choice but my worries are reliability due to only 1 dealer present in my city, lack of features, massive price tag and small seat
  • TVS NTorq- The best compromise I feel but reports about bad build are holding me back. Additionally, its a new platform so reliability is unknown
  • Suzuki Access- Tried and tested fun product but features are quite less and it looks ugly!
  • TVS Jupiter ZX- Most practical here but I feel it isn't sporty enough.
Also before getting the scooter, I will get a helmet but being a complete noob to this world, do not know a lot. So Please suggest some good helmets. Don't need anything fancy and lower the price, the better.

I can stretch till March if a really promising product is going to launch but if not, I'd rather get it by January end.

Thanks for suggesting!
"If you're too open-minded, your brain will fall out" 
- Lawrence Ferlinghetti
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(Tue-Jan-2019, 08:07 PM)Porsche_guy Wrote: Hey Guys! I'm gonna be turning 16 this month and hence, will qualify for getting a Learners Licence. Also with no 2 wheeler presently in the garage and unreliability and cost of public transport, it is getting difficult to take a car out for short errands and to the crowded areas of the city hence the thought of an automatic scooter. I will be using it primarily for commuting to school from next year which is 7km from my place so FE is a priority. That said, I'd really like something sporty and feature rich while also being practical and comfortable for my parents to use. I somehow do not like the Activa at all and am reluctant to look at the Honda stable. I haven't taken any TDs yet so comparing just on paper right now. With these in mind, here's my list of preferences-

  1. Comfort- Due to my long commute
  2. Fuel Efficiency- Same reason as above
  3. Sportiness- For myself Big Grin
  4. Features- Would love good features
  5. Reliability- Expected ownership period is atleast 7-8 years so good service support is critical.
So far, have shortlisted these models for now-
  • Aprilia SR125- My go to choice but my worries are reliability due to only 1 dealer present in my city, lack of features, massive price tag and small seat
  • TVS NTorq- The best compromise I feel but reports about bad build are holding me back. Additionally, its a new platform so reliability is unknown
  • Suzuki Access- Tried and tested fun product but features are quite less and it looks ugly!
  • TVS Jupiter ZX- Most practical here but I feel it isn't sporty enough.
Also before getting the scooter, I will get a helmet but being a complete noob to this world, do not know a lot. So Please suggest some good helmets. Don't need anything fancy and lower the price, the better.

I can stretch till March if a really promising product is going to launch but if not, I'd rather get it by January end.

Thanks for suggesting!

Hey man!

If you ask me, i would go for the ntorq. 

1. Build : All tvs products are built well. Much better than the rivals. I personally know that the product was rigorously tested in all the terrains incleuing ladakh. So no questions there. 

2. The ntorq is one the best scooters they've actually made. It is thr best 125 sporty scooter out there which rivals the 150cc scooters as well. 

3. The jupiter being the proven product here. Friend has done 30k kms in 1 year and the scooter runs just fine. No issues whatsoever.

4. SR125 : very nice scooter. Now even gets the bluetooth console and all that but itsi not even close to the ntorq as an overall package. Sure the ntorq doesn get led headlights but the SR125 doesn't either.

Also TVS warranty is like Fiat, no questions asked. 

If you want an overall package go for the Ntorq!
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#3
Thanks for the advice @MotoTune!
Quote:The jupiter being the proven product here. Friend has done 30k kms in 1 year and the scooter runs just fine. No issues whatsoever.
Jupiter I think is a completely different platform altogether. What I meant by  being a proven product is that it should not give me teething problems and should be fairly reliable as the expected ownership period is 7-8 years.
"If you're too open-minded, your brain will fall out" 
- Lawrence Ferlinghetti
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#4
Hi, 

I'm not much into two wheelers but still sharing my thoughts :Smile


All the four scooters you mentioned are awesome in their own aspects. IMO Of all the options you considered Suzuki Access 125 would be a better choice for your kind of use. Aprilia SR125 is purely an enthusiast's choice and does not seem to be on the practical side. Seats are a size smaller for normal users (personally feel adequately sized though), suspension is a bit hard, and fuel efficiency is very low. The competition offers more features at a lower price. Access is equally powerful, offers better ride quality, more space and higher fuel efficiency. Access rides much smoother than Aprilia. Not comparing them with the 110cc scooters because you mentioned that Jupiter does not seem sporty enough. Regarding the looks, obviously, Aprilia is an eyeball magnet. It is one of the best looking scooters available in India. Call me old schooled, but I really love the styling of Access. 

If you want a more practical scooter, then would suggest you to go for Access. If you want a really enthusiastic one, then go for Aprilia. Both wont disappoint you. Do test drive them and make your choice. 

Regards,
Hari
PETROLHEAD FOREVER
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#5
@petrolhead_hari Thanks for the advice!

Quote: Suzuki Access 125 would be a better choice for your kind of use. 
Yes, it does seem to be a competent scooter on paper but what I feel is that it is just overpriced for what features it offers and looks ugly to me. The first gen looked much better IMHO. Also since this is my first purchase, it does have some amount of desirability in it. The Ntorq at the same price offers a lot more but it isn't a proven product which is the only reason that worries me. What do you think of it?   Smile . Attaching the new Access' pic incase you aren't aware of it

   
"If you're too open-minded, your brain will fall out" 
- Lawrence Ferlinghetti
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(Tue-Jan-2019, 08:07 PM)Porsche_guy Wrote: Hey Guys! I'm gonna be turning 16 this month and hence, will qualify for getting a Learners Licence. Also with no 2 wheeler presently in the garage and unreliability and cost of public transport, it is getting difficult to take a car out for short errands and to the crowded areas of the city hence the thought of an automatic scooter. I will be using it primarily for commuting to school from next year which is 7km from my place so FE is a priority. That said, I'd really like something sporty and feature rich while also being practical and comfortable for my parents to use. I somehow do not like the Activa at all and am reluctant to look at the Honda stable. I haven't taken any TDs yet so comparing just on paper right now. With these in mind, here's my list of preferences-

  1. Comfort- Due to my long commute
  2. Fuel Efficiency- Same reason as above
  3. Sportiness- For myself Big Grin
  4. Features- Would love good features
  5. Reliability- Expected ownership period is atleast 7-8 years so good service support is critical.
So far, have shortlisted these models for now-
  • Aprilia SR125- My go to choice but my worries are reliability due to only 1 dealer present in my city, lack of features, massive price tag and small seat
  • TVS NTorq- The best compromise I feel but reports about bad build are holding me back. Additionally, its a new platform so reliability is unknown
  • Suzuki Access- Tried and tested fun product but features are quite less and it looks ugly!
  • TVS Jupiter ZX- Most practical here but I feel it isn't sporty enough.
Also before getting the scooter, I will get a helmet but being a complete noob to this world, do not know a lot. So Please suggest some good helmets. Don't need anything fancy and lower the price, the better.

I can stretch till March if a really promising product is going to launch but if not, I'd rather get it by January end.

Thanks for suggesting!
Hey Buddy,

I would strongly recommend, do have a glance at Honda's portfolio also. Though their products may look dated with time, but I must tell you, very very very high on reliability. I have been using Honda bikes for almost 10 years now, First the Unicorn and now the Ceeber, trust me, absolutely zilch on maintenance cost, has never stalled anywhere due to any malfunction, and product quality has been spot on and with time, I think, if well maintained, Honda products age very well. 

Think this, my Ceeber is on 4000 km on the ODO since last 3 years, get driven once in 15 days, no kick, still starts in the first attempt to start. Importantly, still on stock battery. 

Here's my Ceeber... 

   

For helmets, I would recommend either THH or LS2 helmets. But getting them as genuine or OG is very important. You may have to scout for a big dealer in your area who keeps genuine stuff. 

All the best for your search of the right product.
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#7
Quote:Hey Buddy,

I would strongly recommend, do have a glance at Honda's portfolio also. Though their products may look dated with time, but I must tell you, very very very high on reliability. I have been using Honda bikes for almost 10 years now, First the Unicorn and now the Ceeber, trust me, absolutely zilch on maintenance cost, has never stalled anywhere due to any malfunction, and product quality has been spot on and with time, I think, if well maintained, Honda products age very well. 
I have no doubt about the reliability and quality of Hondas. Its just that the dealership and ASC attitude is 'take it or leave it' since they sell and service  shiploads of vehicles each month. Secondly, I find them to be quite overpriced for what they offer and the design does not excite me. Thirdly, there are Activas and Dios literally everywhere! I would like something which is unique and stands out in the crowd.

As of now, still haven't taken TDs but Ntorq still seems like the most viable product at the moment after hours of research.
"If you're too open-minded, your brain will fall out" 
- Lawrence Ferlinghetti
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#8
UPDATE
Now that it is clear that 2 wheelers above 150 CC  will have to mandatorily have ABS and the ones below 150 CC will need to have CBS from April 1 onwards, I am seriously considering delaying my purchase for sometime. Hopefully, more options will enter the market by then and the other products currently on sale, will have some small issues sorted. 
 
What do you guys think? Should I go for it or wait for April? It will be an inconvenience but I am game if it is going to be worth it.
"If you're too open-minded, your brain will fall out" 
- Lawrence Ferlinghetti
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#9
Hey buddy!

I would suggest you wait till April, if you can't wait then I would strongly recommend the Suzuki Burgman Street, I feel it is the best in the market right now (not sure about the fuel efficiency though)

Cheers!
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